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Having an inverter at the output of a logic cell (buffering the internal node) is almost a given, right? So any custom gates in any static logic family I have to draw I should expect to use an inverter as an output buffer after the actual gate itself, right?
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Sometimes you'll find _0 variants of gates where it's directly the internal output but yeah that's rate and not that useful for general P&R where you'd almost always have an inverter at the output ... except if the cell in question is an inverter or a delay cell .
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Having an inverter at the output of a logic cell (buffering the internal node) is almost a given, right? So any custom gates in any static logic family I have to draw I should expect to use an inverter as an output buffer after the actual gate itself, right?
Chips4Makers aka Staf Verhaegen 2026-06-04 8:12 a.m.
No. CMOS standard cells have NAND2 and AOI amd OAI cells that don't have inverter at the end and these cells will be used quite a lot in the synthesized netlist.
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I just noticed the SRAM behavioral model has timing constraints (55.6 ns, ~18MHz). Do we know if this is a real limit of the SRAM, or just a quirk of the fab's sram model?
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BreakingTaps
I just noticed the SRAM behavioral model has timing constraints (55.6 ns, ~18MHz). Do we know if this is a real limit of the SRAM, or just a quirk of the fab's sram model?
8:24 p.m.
So I assume you can safely ignore at 5V or 3v3
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aha good catch! Didnt realize the docs had those tables for the sram 👍
8:39 p.m.
thanks!
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Does anyone have t_FO4 on hand by chance?
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@RebelMike @Leo Moser (mole99) Overdue update to my SCL: non-inverting latches. So you can use those now and drop any inverters you had to place in your design. Always remember to gate-level simulate, there should be no more missing cell models now.
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@RebelMike @Leo Moser (mole99) Overdue update to my SCL: non-inverting latches. So you can use those now and drop any inverters you had to place in your design. Always remember to gate-level simulate, there should be no more missing cell models now.
Awesome, thank you!
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Tholin
@RebelMike @Leo Moser (mole99) Overdue update to my SCL: non-inverting latches. So you can use those now and drop any inverters you had to place in your design. Always remember to gate-level simulate, there should be no more missing cell models now.
Leo Moser (mole99) 2026-06-12 8:39 a.m.
Opened an open_pdks PR to update the hash: https://github.com/RTimothyEdwards/open_pdks/pull/525
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